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August 6, 2011 at 11:57 pm#92263

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    Hi,

    2011 will be an exciting year for 747 fans indeed :

    Welsh’s 1st release (in about 4-5 weeks) of a Classic 747 will be a -200 version with included conversion parts for a -300 version, Singapore Airlines yellow/blue livery and Pratt & Whitney JT9D engines (featuring the late pylon aft fairing).

    Then shortly after will be available a -100 version, could be BOAC blue/gold or Pan Am billboard or TWA livery, again with Pratt & Whitney JT9D engines (featuring this time the early pylon aft fairing).

    Then again later, -100/-200/-300 versions will be available with all engines offered on the 747 (General Electric CF6-50E2, Rolls-Royce RB211-524D) and appropriate liveries.

    Of course all will be vacform kits with resin engines and white metal gears/wheels but no idea about the wings (either vacform or pressure moulded resin ?).

    One word : YUMMY !!!

    In the meantime, I’ll be placing an order on the 24th, 747SP SAA old livery and 777-300ER British Airways (correct General Electric GE90-115B engines tooled for the -300ER kit, YEAH !!!), will post photos.

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    August 7, 2011 at 1:18 am#127104

    Sergio Goncalves

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      August 7, 2011 at 6:47 am#127108

      747-400

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        Which scale will it be?

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        August 7, 2011 at 9:57 am#127110

        Karel

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          Great news!

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          August 7, 2011 at 9:57 am#127111

          Karel

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            747-400 :
            Which scale will it be?

            I am pretty sure they are all 1/144!:GG

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            August 7, 2011 at 11:52 am#127112

            Metropolitan2

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              Karel :

              747-400 :
              Which scale will it be?

              I can confirm 1/144
              Yes, agree – MOST tempting kits… Wake up call for my dorming SAS decals….!
              -Harry B. :GG

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              August 7, 2011 at 2:41 pm#127113

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                Yes, 1:144 scale, and the best thing is that converting their 747-300 to a 747-400 will be a much easier task than starting from Zvezda’s 747-8 International, it’s just a matter of adding wingtip extensions, winglets and stealing Revell’s 747-400 engines. Oh yes, also adding some putty to the wing root leading edge for the more aerodynamic fairing sometimes seen on 747-200s and -300s.

                Remember Serge Gainsbourg’s song “69 année érotique” ? I say “2011 année 747” !!!

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                August 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm#127116

                Karel

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                  PMG Offramp :
                  Yes, 1:144 scale, and the best thing is that converting their 747-300 to a 747-400 will be a much easier task than starting from Zvezda’s 747-8 International, it’s just a matter of adding wingtip extensions, winglets and stealing Revell’s 747-400 engines. Oh yes, also adding some putty to the wing root leading edge for the more aerodynamic fairing sometimes seen on 747-200s and -300s.

                  Remember Serge Gainsbourg’s song “69 année érotique” ? I say “2011 année 747” !!!

                  Yep! Defenitly! My Swissair 747-300 looks like a go!
                  Maybe even a Sabena -200…

                  Let’s hope the kits will be accurate! :yes

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                  August 7, 2011 at 5:03 pm#127117

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                    Now I know how to use my Brasil Decals JAL DC-6 liveried 747-400 (JA8906) sheet :banana ! I still have to find that pink Mickey & Minnie Mouse 747-400D (JA8904) sheet though…

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                    August 7, 2011 at 5:07 pm#127118

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                      Karel :
                      Yep! Defenitly! My Swissair 747-300 looks like a go!

                      The one with the tears, last flight ? F-DCAL has a very nice laser sheet, of course the livery is too simple but I like the tears detail.

                      Karel :
                      Let’s hope the kits will be accurate! :yes

                      If they’re like the SP kits, I’ll be the happiest man on earth.

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                      August 7, 2011 at 6:26 pm#127119

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                        PMG Offramp :
                        Hi,

                        2011 will be an exciting year for 747 fans indeed :

                        Welsh’s 1st release (in about 4-5 weeks) of a Classic 747 will be a -200 version with included conversion parts for a -300 version, Singapore Airlines yellow/blue livery and Pratt & Whitney JT9D engines (featuring the late pylon aft fairing).

                        Then shortly after will be available a -100 version, could be BOAC blue/gold or Pan Am billboard or TWA livery, again with Pratt & Whitney JT9D engines (featuring this time the early pylon aft fairing).

                        Then again later, -100/-200/-300 versions will be available with all engines offered on the 747 (General Electric CF6-50E2, Rolls-Royce RB211-524D) and appropriate liveries.

                        Of course all will be vacform kits with resin engines and white metal gears/wheels but no idea about the wings (either vacform or pressure moulded resin ?).

                        One word : YUMMY !!!

                        In the meantime, I’ll be placing an order on the 24th, 747SP SAA old livery and 777-300ER British Airways (correct General Electric GE90-115B engines tooled for the -300ER kit, YEAH !!!), will post photos.

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                        August 7, 2011 at 6:28 pm#127120

                        Air Jamaica 727

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                          Now this is really exciting news!! I am not very familar with welsh models, which retailer carries them and as far as quality, how accurate are they?

                          Thanks for the heads up!!

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                          August 7, 2011 at 7:52 pm#127122

                          Karel

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                            PMG Offramp :

                            Karel :
                            Yep! Defenitly! My Swissair 747-300 looks like a go!

                            The one with the tears, last flight ? F-DCAL has a very nice laser sheet, of course the livery is too simple but I like the tears detail.

                            Karel :
                            Let’s hope the kits will be accurate! :yes

                            If they’re like the SP kits, I’ll be the happiest man on earth.

                            Yep! The last flight “tears” version!

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                            August 8, 2011 at 12:09 am#127124

                            Tango-Bravo

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                              PMG Offramp :
                              …Of course all will be vacform kits with resin engines and white metal gears/wheels but no idea about the wings (either vacform or pressure moulded resin ?).

                              Assuming Welsh continues with their usual-and-customary mixed-media format, the wings (and horizontal stabs) will be resin…resulting in the finished kit weighing in at ~20 lbs. (9 kg)?!?!

                              Anyway…good to hear that those who have been patiently(?) awaiting a 1/144 747 ‘Classic’ kit will soon be able to build one…or more. That said…look for Revell to re-release their long oop kit of the same subject and scale???

                              Todd

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                              August 8, 2011 at 12:54 am#127125

                              Jennings

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                                As long as the fuselage molding is smooth and doesn’t have dimples for all the windows.

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                                August 8, 2011 at 2:40 am#127128

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                                  Air Jamaica 727 :
                                  Now this is really exciting news!! I am not very familar with welsh models, which retailer carries them and as far as quality, how accurate are they?

                                  You can get them through Hannants and Aviation Megastore in Europe, and certainly many other shops in Europe and the world but these are the only 2 I’m aware of.

                                  Speaking of quality and accuracy, I would say they’re very good, especially the large ones. I never considered buying their small commuter-like kits as I think the vacform technology don’t allow precise shapes to be reproduced accurately (small bumps, wing/fuselage fairings), at least it was the case 15 years ago on a friend’s MD-90 kit or something like that. The large kits, like the 747SP, MD-11 and Tristar, however, feature very accurate outlines and volumes, I don’t have station diagrams to compare them to but they compare favourably to airliners(dot)net photos. The only exception is the original 777-200 kit, its cockpit cross section is slightly too wide, resulting in a strange look, I hope they improved this specific area on the just released 777-36N/ER kit.

                                  Tango-Bravo :
                                  Assuming Welsh continues with their usual-and-customary mixed-media format, the wings (and horizontal stabs) will be resin…resulting in the finished kit weighing in at ~20 lbs. (9 kg)?!?!
                                  Todd

                                  Well I hope not, I saw that Tristar kits were available either with vacform or “pressure moulded” resin wings, in the later case the price goes up £ 19 and the weight a few grams, not good for the fuselage top seam.

                                  Their latest 777 release, the BA 777-36N/ER, looks to have vacformed wings so I assume it will be the same with the 747 kits, I hope so.

                                  Jennings :
                                  As long as the fuselage molding is smooth and doesn’t have dimples for all the windows.

                                  That’s true, that’s the only irritating point I can think of. Either full holes, either no holes but no “in-betweens”, for me it will be no windows at all but that’s a matter of taste.

                                  Skyline’s solution on their 737 kits is interesting but who can hollow-out all the windows and reproduce a perfectly identical shape on all windows ? You need a hand crafted tool to do this, and I’m not speaking of alignement issues…

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                                  August 8, 2011 at 3:48 am#127130

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                                    but who can hollow-out all the windows and reproduce a perfectly identical shape on all windows ? You need a hand crafted tool to do this, and I’m not speaking of alignement issues…

                                    Exactly this is what I did on my current 744-project. I made a tool and it was very time consuming. It took me months to get it finished. But now the shape meets with the window frames perfectly, thanks again Steven for your decal sheet.

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                                    August 8, 2011 at 4:59 am#127133

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                                      747-400 :
                                      Exactly this is what I did on my current 744-project. I made a tool and it was very time consuming. It took me months to get it finished. But now the shape meets with the window frames perfectly, thanks again Steven for your decal sheet.

                                      Hi there,

                                      I’m sorry I didn’t answer your last email, lot of work and my usual laziness won’t help :o_oI . I got all of your photos, I’m speechless, the amount of work you poured into this kit is insane, congrats, it’s the most impressive conversion build I’ve seen !

                                      Just in case, I have an extra sheet identical as the ones I sent you right here, and another one burried into my basement… should you need more.

                                      See, I’m da lazy mf, I’ll grab a Welsh -300 kit and slap wingtip extensions, winglets, RoG or Braz engines, updated wheels and a putty job on the wing root leading edge and “voilà” my 747-400 Attention, Attention ! Calling all Boeing 747 fans ! – Airlinercafe (20) !

                                      Regards, Steven

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                                      August 8, 2011 at 7:47 pm#127136

                                      Karel

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                                        747-400 :

                                        PMG Offramp :
                                        but who can hollow-out all the windows and reproduce a perfectly identical shape on all windows ? You need a hand crafted tool to do this, and I’m not speaking of alignement issues…

                                        Exactly this is what I did on my current 744-project. I made a tool and it was very time consuming. It took me months to get it finished. But now the shape meets with the window frames perfectly, thanks again Steven for your decal sheet.

                                        I need to see a picture of that tool!:blush
                                        For my 777 project I need to do the oval shaped windows in a styrene 0.5mm sheet, so I don’t think it will be super difficult to do, but I need to create a precise tool/technique!

                                        Sorry for the slight Hyjack guys…

                                        BTW, the Welsh MD-11 is quite nice and pretty accurate IMHO. I hope the 747’s will be something similar in accuracy! :yes

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                                        August 8, 2011 at 10:09 pm#127143

                                        super_marcy

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                                          Hi

                                          Are there any pictures from the 777-300 and 747 parts?

                                          Marcel

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                                          August 9, 2011 at 12:30 am#127145

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                                            Karel :
                                            Sorry for the slight Hyjack guys…

                                            Hey, not a problem at all, as long as we can discuss about interesting modelling stuff. Your 777 project is one I’ll follow for sure :GG !

                                            Karel :
                                            BTW, the Welsh MD-11 is quite nice and pretty accurate IMHO. I hope the 747’s will be something similar in accuracy! :yes

                                            Yes, I like that kit very much, I have the Swissair release with both powerplants but it was an early release with vacform pylons, nacelle and exhaust cones while the intake and fan were white metal. BTW, did I understand Authentic Airliners were considering a resin MD-11 kit :love ?!

                                            super_marcy :
                                            Are there any pictures from the 777-300 and 747 parts?
                                            Marcel

                                            I’ve asked Densil but he didn’t enclose photos so I guess he keeping them for the official release on his web site.

                                            Regarding the 777-36N/ER kit, I’ve just placed the order and paid for it so they (there’s also a 747SP-44 old SAA livery) should be on my door step in a week-10 days. I know what to expect with the 747SP since I have the Pan Am release (with the gorgeous Liveries Unlimited decal sheet) but the 777-300 is the big question, I prefer to think of an updated -200 kit so if a completely new tool pops up I’ll be the happiest man on earth. I’ll post photos of the kits.

                                            Regards, Steven

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